Why We Collect

Ep. 08: Ed Steck Talks About Collecting as Research

For this episode of Why We Collect, we talk with poet and Fungus Books and Records co-owner Ed Steck about two of his collections, books and horror films. He describes how an early interest in horror films drew him into a wider and wilder world of collecting the uncanny, the rare, and the strange.

“The first film that I got sucked into was George Romero’s Dawn of the Dead,” says Steck, “because I grew up in Irwin, Pennsylvania and Monroeville Mall was 10-15-20 minutes down the road. I remember watching Dawn of the Dead and [thinking], ‘that is the mall I go to.’ I was blown away that this other world could exist right where my mom and grandma took me to J.C. Penney’s or Kaufmann’s or whatever.”

We also talk about how collecting feeds into research for his poetry practice. We talk about inspirations for his new book A Place Beyond Shame, which is “a long-form poetic exploration of autobiographical trauma,” published by Wonder Publishing. Then we discuss the current books on his writing desk, which are feeding into a new writing project about UFOs.

The episode ends with Ed reading an excerpt from A Place Beyond Shame that revolves around the Westinghouse Atom Smasher, a now-toppled Van de Graaff generator that saw 21 years of use as part of Westinghouse’s work with “non-weapons applications of nuclear technology.” Read this fascinating article from the Smithsonian for more details on how the atom smasher operated in its heyday.

Catch up with Ed at Fungus Books and Records in the Wilkinsburg neighborhood, just outside of Pittsburgh. And check out Ed’s work from publishers Wonder Publishing and Ugly Duckling Presse.

Ep. 07: Lauren Herckis Talks About Meaningful Archives

For this episode of Why We Collect, we talk with anthropologist Lauren Herckis about the concept of “meaningful archives.”

“In anthropology, in archeology, in archives, recognizing that interplay between the objects and the people and the stories and the power structures and the cultural fabric is at the heart of making meaning and making meaningful archives.”

We also talk about stuff. Things. You know, objects like the crown jewels, toothbrushes, and magic beans. Lauren shows us how the meaning of stuff changes based on context, and how meaning shifts depending on the values shared by a population at a given time.

On Why We Collect, we often speak to collectors about why they seek out and keep what they collect, but Lauren gives us some perspective for why all of us—the whole of past and present civilizations—value the objects that we make and preserve.

 

Lauren is part of Carnegie Mellon University’s Simon Initiative, University Libraries, and the Human-Computer Interaction Institute in the School of Computer Science. She studies how people use technology, how technology shapes culture, and how culture shapes technology.

Find out more about Lauren’s work on her website: https://lauher29.dreamhosters.com

Ep. 06: Adil Mansoor Talks About the Use of Archives and Oral History in Amm(i)gone

For this episode of Why We Collect, we talk with theatre director Adil Mansoor about Amm(i)gone, a new theater piece that goes on tour this month!

The play’s tagline is “Amm(i)gone, an adaptation of Sophocles’ Antigone, is an apology to and from a mother,” and the work incorporates recorded interviews with Mansoor’s mother along with selected family photographs and ephemera. We talk about these conversations and these objects—how the interviews were conducted, why certain objects were chosen. But we talk about so much more. The deepness of the work allows us to dig into a lot of juicy topics: making theater about the joyful feeling of making theater, power dynamics between interviewee and interviewer, editing (or not editing) oral history, talking about art with people you love, and the difficulties of making theater about one’s family. “We’re literally talking about the things we don’t talk about. That’s what the show is about,” says Mansoor. “The show is about how difficult it is to talk.”

Since many listeners might be listening to this episode before they catch a performance, here’s more info about the play.

“Creator and performer Adil Mansoor explores queerness, the afterlife, and obligation using canonical texts, teachings from the Quran, and audio conversations between him and his mother. Since discovering his queerness, Mansoor’s mother has turned towards her faith in an attempt to save her son in the afterlife. In an effort towards healing, Mansoor has invited his mother to join him as dramaturg and co-conspirator. In reading, discussing, and translating various adaptations of the source play, together they mine Greek tragedy, Islamic traditions, and their own memories to create an original performance locating love across faith.”

Hope you enjoy this thoughtful and fun conversation!

Bonus: We’ve introduced a lightning round of questions at the end of the episode. Favorite sandwich? Toilet paper up or down?

Introducing Why We Collect

Why We Collect presents thoughtful conversations about the objects we keep—and create.

With the help of people who spend an inordinate amount of time managing objects and reflecting on their meanings—from collectors to curators, artists to archivists, and enthusiasts to entrepreneurs—we try to make sense of our messy material world.

Why We Collect is co-produced and co-hosted by Katherine Barbera and David Bernabo of Bright Archives, an independent archival production house.

Ep. 05: Liz Rudnick Talks About Painting Over Family Photographs

For this episode of Collectors Edition, we talk with artist and curator Liz Rudnick about her collections of artist monographs, small sculptures, and family photographs that she makes anew by painting over aspects of the image. Along the way, we discuss a variety of topics like how parental philosophies towards collecting are passed down through generations, how artists turn experiences into objects, and how art made with outdated media are preserved and displayed in authentic ways. We also talk about the difference between hoarding and collecting, trying to document ephemeral performance works, and collecting as a reminder for one’s existence. It’s a fun, wide-ranging conversation!

Ep. 04: Eira Tansey on Archives and Climate Change

Climate change is reshaping our known world, including our archives. We talk with Eira Tansey, an archivist and researcher who specializes in the impacts of climate change on cultural heritage. She recently published a report with the Council on Library and Information Resources called “A Green New Deal for Archives,” one of the first comprehensive looks at what we need to do to protect our histories. She also founded Memory Rising, which provides research, consulting, and archival services with expertise in climate change, environmental and labor movements, and Ohio Valley regional history. This is the first episode of the Vernacular Archives series on the Bright Archives podcast. 

We talk with Eira about the impacts of climate change on archives, how archives can be used to tell stories about climate change, and how labor issues impact the ability of archivists to respond to the effects of our changing environment.

Ep. 03: Ryan McLennan Talks About Books

For the second episode of Collectors Edition, we talk with Bottom Feeder Books owner Ryan McLennan. Ryan moved to Pittsburgh a few years ago, and opened the bookstore in 2022. The store reflects Ryan's interests in artist monographs, film, photography, modern and classic American literature, theatre, and poetry. Display shelves focus on aesthetically-pleasing book covers, and the stacks contain a number of first editions, hard-to-find (in Pittsburgh) exhibition catalogs, and a mix of heralded and lesser-known titles. A gallery at the back of the store showcases monthly exhibitions from artists--do yourself a favor and swing by the store for photographer Kelly Lanzendorfer's excellent show, which runs until December 10, 2023--and the front room frequently hosts readings from local writers.

We talk with Ryan about his own book collection and how he cultivates the store's collection. Ryan discusses his early adventures in collecting with M.U.S.C.L.E. figures (aka Kinkeshi) and punk and hardcore LPs. And we discuss the appeal of physical objects over digital reproductions.

Ep. 02: Fred Lonberg-Holm Talks About Tiny Collections

For the first episode of Collectors Edition, we talk with Fred Lonberg-Holm. You may know Fred from his work as a musician, predominantly a cellist, composer, and improviser. He has led bands like the Valentine Trio, Terminal Four, and Lightbox Orchestra. Fred logged many hours in studios and on the road with the Vandermark 5, Ballister, and various bands with sax legend Peter Brotzmann.

We talked with Fred over Zoom about his love of collecting small objects — metal lapel pins and small books. We also touch on a few deeper topics like the difference between collecting for an institutional archive and personal collecting. Fred talks about the joy that collecting can bring but also how sometimes an administrative task like creating a catalog of your collection can remove that joy and make it feel like more of a “job.”

With Collectors Edition, we are testing a theory, the theory that learning more about the objects people keep can help us understand more about the world and our places in it, like how we tend to associate objects with certain memories and histories.